Part 2 of answering a comment from a reader:
I have answered the first part of this comment here, and now I would like to answer the second part of this comment, about why I would celebrate “the historical fact that the founding “Pilgrams” of the USA almost completely committed genocide on the Native Amercian Indians who were here first?” The reader went on to say “How sad”. Comment is in bold.
First I would like to say that I do not believe that our founding fathers (the Pilgrims) “almost committed genocide” and that celebrating Thanksgiving is celebrating that. Nowhere in history do I see this, in fact, the Pilgrims bought their land from the Indians and worked hand in hand with them.
I understand that in the creating of this country, there was a great loss of the Indians, eventually. I will not argue that fact. But this is not what Thanksgiving is celebrating, nor do I believe it was the Pilgrims that did this.
But, let’s go back to the heart of the comment…committing genocide being so sad. Again, I’d like to take you back to scripture and find out what Yahweh says about such things happening. Let’s look at what Yahweh said for his people to do, when taking over a land/country.
Deuteronomy 20:16-18, “But of the cities of these people, which Yahweh thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth: But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as Yahweh thy God hath commanded thee: That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against Yahweh your God.”
Deuteronomy 7:1-2, “When Yahweh thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou; And when Yahweh thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:”
Judges 21:11, “And this is the thing that ye shall do, Ye shall utterly destroy every male, and every woman that hath lain by man.”
1 Samuel 15:3, “Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.”
1 Samuel 15:9, “But Saul and the people spared Agag, and the best of the sheep, and of the oxen, and of the fatlings, and the lambs, and all that was good, and would not utterly destroy them: but every thing that was vile and refuse, that they destroyed utterly.”
1 Samuel 15:17-23, “And Samuel said, When thou wast little in thine own sight, wast thou not made the head of the tribes of Israel, and Yahweh anointed thee king over Israel? And Yahweh sent thee on a journey, and said, Go and utterly destroy the sinners the Amalekites, and fight against them until they be consumed. Wherefore then didst thou not obey the voice of Yahweh, but didst fly upon the spoil, and didst evil in the sight of Yahweh? And Saul said unto Samuel, Yea, I have obeyed the voice of Yahweh, and have gone the way which Yahweh sent me, and have brought Agag the king of Amalek, and have utterly destroyed the Amalekites. But the people took of the spoil, sheep and oxen, the chief of the things which should have been utterly destroyed, to sacrifice unto Yahweh thy God in Gilgal. And Samuel said, Hath Yahweh as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of Yahweh? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams. For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of Yahweh, he hath also rejected thee from being king.”
Now, I know this may seem cruel to you, but the facts are, this is exactly what Yahweh commands when taking over a country. He had his people slay both man, woman, child, and infant in some incidences. In other incidences, it was only the man and the married women. But the fact is still the same. This is what he often had his people do when taking over a country/land. What happened when his people didn’t obey this command? They were condemned and cursed!
So before you condemn the Pilgrims, or better yet, the American’s later, for killing the Indians when taking over this country, I would ask that you please go back and read what Yahweh had his own people do during a war and the overthrowing of a country. This is life. And this is his word, whether we may agree or disagree with it, it is his way and his method. People do die in war and that’s just a fact that everyone accepts. It has to be.
But again, this is a totally different time and is totally separate from Thanksgiving. This isn’t what we are celebrating, and it wasn’t what the Pilgrims were celebrating, either. They were a people who were being slain for serving Yahweh their God, and they were so thankful that he had brought them to a land where they could serve him and all he had done for them! And they were giving thanks, with the Indians. We carry on the tradition of using this day to set apart for giving thanks for what Yahweh has done in our lives and the lives around us…and as I mentioned in Part 1 of this series, I think this is totally in agreement with scripture! Not a command, but not something Yahweh condemns, either.